Nightmask Wrote:
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> The problem with a flood of 'You're the
> greatest/you rock/etc' posts is that they crowd
> out posts with actual substance and turn off
> people who aren't interested in that and are
> logging in and looking for actual discussions.
> Where there isn't anything inherently wrong in
> wanting to praise someone for good work when it
> starts looking like a macro on your computer that
> reads 'when posts reply with ' it's gone too
> far.
I can see you point Nightmask, 100%, but every forum I've been a member of from the
beginning of it's creation, had fan base posts. it's normal. Go to every first post you ever seen in any forum you've been too and prove me wrong. Give it some time and like this site, it'll eventually die down.
> It also backfires as it tends to cause anyone else
> who might have posted a positive response to not
> do so because they don't want to be mistaken for
> one of those
drones. They also might be afraid to
> post because they disagree with some or all of it
> because it's almost a given that they risk getting
> flamed. Why would anyone want to post when they'd
> have to risk getting flamed like I was? One
> reason Niniri gave up posting or reading things
> was being burned out on that kind of thing and I
> seriously doubt she's the only one, just one of
> the few willing to say so. The rest just
> disappear without a sound feeling their opinion
> doesn't matter. Since I post out of a love for
> the game and general desire to be helpful and not
> to have legions of worshipful fans I continue to
> post in spite of the
flaming fanboy legions for
> the people who can appreciate it.
I really wish the name calling would stop. If you want less flamage, try less name calling.
> One problem to work around for moderators is that
> often the kinds of things requiring one are
> infrequent so anyone chosen likely hasn't any
> proven history in dealing with such problems,
> especially if they're called upon to moderate
> someone who's a friend who's behaving badly. It
> generally requires someone who can step outside
> friendship and not let dealing with that interfere
> with the friendship afterwards (much like a cop
> has to not let his friendship or family ties stop
> him arresting someone for doing wrong while still
> being a friend or family member).
Oh this isn't hard to do. Specially when you're involved in law enforcement. I once turned my own step brother in for robbery, drugs, and showing up to my home with a warrant out for him. Being unbias isn't hard to do if you have the nerve and the right mind to do it.
> A moderator 'pool' might be a good idea, similar
> to a jury pool with primaries and alternates so
> that moderators could be rotated to determine
> their ability to handle the job as well as keep
> the burden low for any particular individual. I
> know I'd find it good to not have to remain a
> moderator non-stop and get some time without the
> hassles of going 'Hey you people go to your
> respective corners, cool down, and NO posting
> anything to each other's posts for at least a
> week' every time some thread goes nuclear.
Nice idea in text form, Would be quite the tasked to manage. And loads of time to set up. Time this site doesn't have much of... I'd strongly suggest thinking longer on this idea due to recent personal experience on another forum simular to this one, I'd suggest a psyche evaluation with this rotational application idea. Works great for law enforcement. It'll help us keep people from getting trigger happy with the Delete key.
> With regards to Niniri and her moderator position
> at Skycutter's I'm sure she was doing what she
> felt was needed to help the site grow and be a
> good one instead of just page after page of 'you
> rule!'. I'm sure he'd rather people were posting
> stuff that helped everyone out and drew people to
> his forum rather than drove them off because they
> couldn't find anything beyond one-line posts all
> saying how great he is and nothing else or
> couldn't find the material worth reading because
> they weren't going to dig through all the spam to
> find it.
Yeah....On the subject of trying to get through page after page of "you rule!" lots of forums have a search engine to help with this issue of finding things, which I personally think some forums could improve upon to help the community better. But like I said earlier, the site is new and that fan base will fade with time. Just like this site fan base did, I'm noticing. Plus, I seen you folks compliment no different than the rest of the community. Just less of it.
> Having a real interactive forum is what's made
> this site so good, what's drawn people to it so
> consistently over the years. It's not line after
> line of nothing but single-minded praise but
> actual people who for the most part are posting
> their views and agreeing to disagree with little
> more than the occasional heated argument. I have
> also noticed when looking back through the forums
> that the recent flames we've seen aren't new,
> there have been other periods where it was bad
> (Your Favorites has a number of character posts
> dated from 2003 that got nothing but flames and
> redicule from the members at the time and zero
> respect). This group survived that to continue on
> and reviving it elsewhere after Aunt_Petunia gives
> it up isn't impossible as long as there's
> committment to doing it right.
I agree. With much TLC involved.
> For those who like my suggestion for a new site
> name thanks I'm glad that it's striking a chord in
> at least some people. I think with committment
> and planning we can rebuild and keep Classic
> Marvel going long into the 21st Century and after
> the internet is replaced with something so much
> better than it like broadband puts dial-up to
> shame (or so I've been told).
I totally dig the name, brilliant man, brilliant and fitting.
Peace.
"Fer the love of my sweet Community...RAGNARöK"