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Quoteinnate ability does not "trump" learned skills and techniques
Well, perhaps you're reading a little more into my assertion than was intended, but the best of the best that history has to offer in any particular field are NOT people who simply studied hard. They are people who had innate ability.
Likewise, there are plenty of people who possess black belts in some martial
by Powersurge
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Not exactly, Tanker.
Th point in my comparison between Cap and Bats was that Cap's superior athleticism, his superior strength and stamina and coordination, make up for a *relative* lack of aptitude and technical know how and allow him to compete at an elite level. We see this in Mixed Martial Arts competition where a far less experienced and/or well trained fighter is nevertheless able t
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I'd certainly be willing to concede that civet5285.
While physical compotence and physical aptitude do tend to walk hand-in-hand, ie. a naturally high physical aptitude will naturally lead to the developement of a certain degree of physical competence, I can also imagine some scenarios in which this might not be the case.... such as suffering from an illness or disease, or being physicall
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I'd agree that it's somewhat ironic, Nightmask. But do you want to know what is even more ironic? That fact that as far as comic characters go, I prefer Cap to Thor.
Anyway, the reason why the SS Serum could amp Cap's ASE but not his F, is because the ASE attributes are purely physical in nature, while the Figthing rank is more cerebral and intuitive; ultimately having more in c
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I just thought I'd clarify what is meant by innate aptitude as, I think it was Tanker who made a comment regarding one "learning" innate aptitude.
Innate aptitude is not learned. It is present from the get go... part of the person, and not something a person can acquire. No amount of training or education or experience or performance enhancers will ever turn a mediocre or even a
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Needless to say, I think that using the real world as a reference point is as fair as any. It is at least as fair as saying that because Character A generally shows more caution in combat, or jumps around alot, he has demonstrated superior skill than Character B who doesn't show the same degree of caution or doesn't jump around alot
Cap for instance takes a cautious approach to many
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I have seen Thor demonastrate plenty of figthing skill in the numerous comics I have read of him since the 80's. In fact, if one compares Thor's comicbook fighting style to the real world, his technique is FAR more practical than that of, say, Cap. One just has to look over his battles with the likes of Jormungandr for instance, or any opponent that poses a true threat to the Thunderer.
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The various stats and updates provded by the sight are good, but the mix of different people, their opinions and our discussions are the true value of this sight.... all courtesy of Aunt Petunia of course.
It would be a real shame to lose this site... to lose this group of folks. I sure hope someone can take over.
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I see the logic of what you're saying. Just as the speedster can react to an attack with lightning speed, so to can he attack at lightning speed... giving the defender little to no time to react defensievely. Essentially the defender is a stationary target, caught flat on his feet for all intents and purposes.
That does seem worthy of some form of to-hit bonus.... maybe subbing the power
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civet5285 Wrote:
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> But how do you guys deal with Agility, and with
> the speed-ball characters in general? Because just
> using the Fighting stat wouldn't do justice to the
> speedballs in the comics world.
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Well, in terms of pure agility, the in-game mechanic might be a little weak... offering a max of
by Powersurge
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I would tend to agree with Tanker that Fighting skill is somewhat reliant in strength in other areas... a synergistic combination of the ASERIP.
However, there is always the cap provided by innate aptitude... which is what I think the Figthing score is the primary measure of. It is not reliant on strength of body, or strength of tehnique.... it is pure, innate physical problem-solving ability
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I don't think that Spider-man's agility, speed and reflexes would prove to be that much of a problem for a warrior the calibre of Thor, Captain America or Batman. Spidey is still a two -dimensional, reactionary fighter, and Thor has the experience and technical expertise to set Spidey up, predict his movements, and utilize angles to cut down on Parker's superior speed.
The way I
by Powersurge
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the Drighten (not pleased, unholstering sidearm)
the Drighten (uttering a highly destructive runic incantation)
by Powersurge
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I'm Pro-Reg... need I say more?
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His strength and endurance go up because surges of adreniline and the corresponding release of various chemicals in the mind produce natural enhancements to strength and toughness. Thats what adreniline does.
Rage on the otherhand doesn't make one a better fighter... which is why many a professional fighter will try to inpsire anger in their opponent. No matter the level skill while relat
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I agree. The Eternals got wrecked. And the Destroyer armour was invested with a portion of the power of EVERY Skyfather from Earth's pantheons in it's construction... and "only" animated by the collective souls of the Asgardians, so...
There simply is no good way to combat the Celestials. Besides, look at the unrivalled potential they instilled in humankind. If any race is
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I agree absolutely 100% that there is no way that Hulk is becoming a better fighter the angrier he gets. The idea is entirely contrary.
I've long given the Hulk stat shifts to his strength and endurance. I generally don't play the Hulk with a true regeneration power, as I think that the added health from the stat shifts reflect this without need for a power.
As for why someone mig
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Powersurge present and accounted for... after a bit of a hiatus.
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Considering the levels of power that would be unleashed in any battle where the opposition had the actual might to take on all of the Celelstials, it would hopefully NOT take place in our solar system or even our galaxy... lest the battle itself make the entire idea of judging Earth a moot point.
There really is no way to stop the Celestials from judging Earth. So, that leaves us with making s
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The Norse myths actually don't give us any indication of Thor's battle prowess or style fo fighting, other than to say that he had never been beaten.
General Norse-Teutonic culture on the otherhand gives us plenty of indication that they did not consider brute strength alone to be the primary virtue of a warrior. The elite fighters of Norse-Teutonic tradtion fought naked, relied as m
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I finally got a scanner for my computer... which beats the hell outta tracing my pics onto the computer and then having to blow it up and refine the pic pixel by pixel... which really sucked.
So here are some original pencils!!!
This first one is of Powersurge and Morningstar, drawn mostly to show off the size dif. between these two heroes...
This second one is just an action pic of
by Powersurge
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I once created a character whose powers were "kinetic" in nature. He could surround himself in a sheathe that would deprive incoming kinetic/force-based attacks of their potential energy and reduce damage by power rank... kinda like a kinetic null-field.
As for whether I'd chose force-field or kinetic sheathe... I suppose it all depends on the specific flavour I was looking for.
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I disagree that that is the only way things could have gone if Cap hadda been pro-reg... unless one assume that polarizing the issue and starting a CW is the only option. I like to think that Cap is better than than that, not mention actually believes in the institutions and way of life that he constantly upholds and forces others to respect.
Public opinion was what made the passing of the SRA
by Powersurge
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Well, my "What If" would only be a couple pages long....
What If Cap had of been pro-SRA?
Hill would have approached Cap more tactfully, Cap would have signed on instead of signing off, everyone that mattered would have followed ('cause it had CAP's okay), the MU would have got the SRA that the government originally promised, there would have been no clones, no need for
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bump...
Not much has been happening with Powersurge as my buddy failed to deliver on that campaign arc he mentioned many moons ago. So, mostly PS has been hanging out around Department H waiting for something interesting to happen.
Oh, in the Morningstar campaign, PS ran into the synthoid and again thanked it for helping him out when he was abducted by ex-Canadian Brigadiere-General (basica
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My opinion on Reed's leadership is that he is mediocre at best. He is the patriarch of his little family clique and that is what got him the role as leader of the F.F. to begin with. It was almost by default. It's like saying dad is the boss. Yeah, well, duh.
He certainly doesn't have more of a task before him in terms of leadership than Cap does. To say nothing of the other pe
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Most universities that I am aware require students to achieve certain prerequisites before they are even allowed to enroll in certain courses. Afterall, you can't just lecture any ol' freshman on advanced quantum theory and expect any sort of understanding. Such an expectation would be pure ignorance and a waste of everyone's time.
Reed thinks out loud, on a level HE understands
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Well, be that as it may, you don't lecture any ol university freshman on advanced quantum theory and expect any understanding. You start with the basics and then you progressively build on them. Reed is generally thoughtless of where his "target audience" stands, and acts like he's talking to a group of genius all holding PhD's in various fields.
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As things stand, it seems that if one possesses a high enough Reason attribute their is a presumption of aptitude in virtually any area; which takes away from the possession of a Talent.
But it seems to me that raw Reason can only carry one so far without some form of education, formal or otherwise.
I'm curious about what you folks think about imposing a negative CS modifier for attemt
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