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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Isn't that exactly what you said though, referring
> to how Conan would age and end up weak but Cap
> would always remain at peak, so setting things
> during an assumed period where Conan's too old to
> hold his own, while assuming Cap would always
> remain at peak when none of establishe
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> You should know me enough by now to know that I
> don't let personal bias get in the way of
> write-ups and character stats, and as far as the
> various write-ups go they were highly biased
> against him. His OHOTMU mentions his unlimited
> potential and he worried a Watcher even more than
&g
by daikumanoken
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MU2? Please, I won't go there! And I would not pit an aged Conan against a peek Cap?! You think too little of me.... Sad.8-)
by daikumanoken
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I meant _Owen employs NO technique to get it done_
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> I think the Dark Phoenix saga was all about Jean
> Grey not being able to handle it after someone
> went mucking around in her mind and unleashing her
> dark side. There wasn't any evidence she was
> going to go all Galactus and consume everything
> until she was subjected to mind control tha
by daikumanoken
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capocastillo Wrote:
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> I don't think anyone's dismissing your examples
> per se'. I think it's well documented the types
> of foes Captain America has beaten that far
> outclass him in terms of power.
>
> One dismissal I do see though is the superhuman
> foes that Conan has beaten. he doesn&
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> I don't remember saying Owen beat the Beyonder,
> but he held his own long enough to help lead to
> his defeat. But as control and awareness goes
> Owen's not a mere mortal mind or average awareness
> he's the ultimate expression of humanity's
> unlimited psionic potential to m
by daikumanoken
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It's also interesting how someone asks for examples and then dismisses them! As though their evidence is objectively stronger? When in fact it is just as arbitrary! But one fact exists that is utterly discounted, and that is Conan ages and thus is diminished by natural causes unlike Captain America!
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Unfortunately it seems as if it's just about a
> given when you compare iconic characters of a
> particular level (In this case humans at the peak
> of human potential) fan favorite creeps in and
> they have trouble seeing how there isn't any hands
> down clear winner if they had to fight
by daikumanoken
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muthal the cursed Wrote:
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> Well I would have to disagree on a few points
> these teams did not get better. The fantastic four
> has sucked royally and the mighty avengers is pure
> trash. New avengers and astonishing x-men have
> been by far marvels best team books in along time,
>
>
> On another note I
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Unfortunately they have been churning through Team
> Rosters with greater speeds, creating chaos and a
> serious lack of stability (even two competing
> groups vying for the title Avengers).
> Unfortunately stability, continuity, and general
> steadfastness are treated as old-fashioned and
> d
by daikumanoken
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I must admit that I have seen the Fantastic Four go through various roster changes over the years. Most of the early ones were for the better or maintained the integrity of what the group represented. Some of the later changes just went bonkers! Now they seem to have gone back to the basics. Maybe that's just me. But the Avengers and X-Men used to mirror these types of changes. Yet lately th
by daikumanoken
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Well, this is an interesting thread! I think it comes out Galactus as the winner. Nightmask makes his points well. Owen is formidable! Taking the stories, all of them, it would seem having the power to beat the Beyonder is all need be said. But I think there are two problems!
1) Even if it is written, can we not tell trash when we see it? Owen? Defeating a Beyonder? No matter the story this is
by daikumanoken
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warhammer Wrote:
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> I always contributed Spiderman's ability to take
> and heal damage faster than normal to a
> combination of his high Endurance(giving him a
> higher durability, speed and healing rate than
> normal) and his molecular bonding power which
> allows his wallcrawling power.
> My thought is t
by daikumanoken
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Punstarr Wrote:
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> Ok, but what's the explanation of how exactly
> Conan -naturally- achieved what only a serum makes
> possible? It's impossible without some outside
> force... so what made it possible for Conan?
> Magic?
>
> Therein lies the main problem. Different
> universes with wholly diffe
by daikumanoken
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Powersurge Wrote:
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> I wouldn't liken Mr.B to either Xavier or
> Magneto... he just isn't ideological enough.
The match wasn't meant to be literal. But I didn't say that; my bad!
> He's
> pretty plain and simple... wants to protect his
> family and daughter, and bringing down the Company
&g
by daikumanoken
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Punstarr Wrote:
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> Nah dude, those were razor bats. I'm pretty sure
> a pumpkin bomb's a pumpkin bomb.
>
> I'm pretty sure he has been shot in the comics.
Yeah but they started out as a pumpkin bomb! They turned into bats after he pressed the button. And the bomb that atomized the corporate jerks was diffe
by daikumanoken
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Punstarr Wrote:
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> Those are the same bombs that atomized groups of
> men in the first movie, though. Realistically,
> it's a matter of how tough the flesh is... and if
> the flesh is tough enough to resist that bomb with
> minimal visible damage, it should be tough enough
> to deflect bullets (a much lower dama
by daikumanoken
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Punstarr Wrote:
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> I don't know... I always just saw Conan as a
> typical D&D Barbarian. I've not read the novels
> but I've seen the movies. Conan's bulk would work
> against him imho, making him less agile than Cap.
> Conan can't be peak in every physical aspect (as
> Cap is), because
by daikumanoken
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It's ok with me to call it a draw! But that's just for the sake of being fair. But it doesn't mean I withdraw anything I said earlier.8-)
by daikumanoken
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It's like the idea that Batman could beat the Hulk or do anything to the Hulk without some type of weapon, or that Batman could beat Cap in a hand to hand fight.
These heroes have their strengths, but they are not equal when placed side by side! Clearly, in most cases it comes down to perception and often objectivity gives way to subjectivity. But at least in this case it is understandabl
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Capo's right that Conan is the Captain America of
> his age. Both of their creators have written them
> up at the pinnacle of what a human can be, larger
> than life heroes braving the worst of dangers of
> their era, and considering Conan has almost
> routinely battled archmages and even dem
by daikumanoken
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capocastillo Wrote:
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> Conan is the epitome of what a human can achieve
> in Hyborian age, or however that is spelled. just
> as Cap is the epitome of what a human can achieve
> in this age.
>
> Conan has withstood as much as cap has, fought as
> hard as cap has, demonstrated unbelievable
> strength as cap h
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Yes I read your post but the idea Conan isn't a
> match for Captain America just doesn't work.
> Conan started with the natural physical potential
> that Steve Rogers required the Super-Soldier
> formula to achieve. He's been shown maintaining
> that peak physical condition for dec
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Well Mohinder is such a gullible idiot he trusts
> people who kept Syler alive instead of killing him
> when there was a chance to do so and want to
> unleash a virus to depower anyone who's got
> super-powers without any thought to the
> consequences. Heck he's even helping create the
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Not so ambitious for Conan to outlive Thor when
> Thor's power was so reduced by being so far in the
> past and during an age when other gods reigned
> supreme that he was little more than a powerful
> mortal at that point. His body simply couldn't
> handle the strain required to wrest c
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> Wasn't anything ambitious about it on Conan's
> part, it was a duty laid upon him by a friend, and
> as an honorable man his word is his bond and Thor
> was most definitely his friend in that other
> reality. He earned his worthiness to wield
> Mjolnir and I think his rising up to godhoo
by daikumanoken
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Foxx Wrote:
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> Ah Mohinder. I still like him, but I think he
> needs to be beaten. Oh look, Sylar returns next
> episode.
>
> NEVER MIND! :D
Yeah, Mohinder is kind of a tool! He's starting to get uncongenial! Sylar would not be a bad way to deal with his ineptitude! And though Mr B is trying to save his own hi
by daikumanoken
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Punstarr Wrote:
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> I dunno. Based on how tough they made him in
> Spider-Man 3 (the bomb to the face comes readily
> to mind), you'd think his flesh would be strong
> enough to deflect bullets. Spidey can't do that.
> Bullets will pierce his flesh easily.
Hmm, pierce his flesh easily, huh?! Not sure I woul
by daikumanoken
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Nightmask Wrote:
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> I'm sorry, I guess I should have been more clear,
> as I was really wanting to see continuations of
> already published what-ifs. One What-If had Thor
> when trying to find Loki early in the comic era in
> a cavern with gateways to various times, and Thor
> took a different branch in the What
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