hulk's strength

i am sure that captain america and hulk have the same strength even though hulk increases in strength when he gets madder it would seem like hulk's strength would be higher or less than captain america's strength

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Um, no, they don't...While Captain America did possess some Super-Strength before in his life, I doubt it would have even rank close to the Hulk's strength. I'd say either In or Am if you're using the old Super-Strength Cap

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So i guess my question would be...

Where did you find Cap's strength noted as high as the Hulks.

Not on this site..i hope *runs to check it out, will be crushed if it is*



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I can't fathom how you came to this conclusion. The hulk is the quite possibly the strongest being on the planet, well cap is well below spidermans level



think? whatta you mean think? i dont think, i beat people up. now pay me

If memory serves, at his peak, when he did exhibit superhuman strength, Cap was at the Rm/30 range. For the most part, though, Cap exhibits peak human strength (Ex/20).

Hulk, on the other hand, has to my knowledge never shown anything less than Monstrous/75 Strength. And, ys, the madder Hulk gets, the stronger Hulk gets, and he's shown no upper limit.

Hammer, where/how did you get the idea that they'd be evenly matched on strength?



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dr.arche eville i'm not talking about when hulk has gotten madder but right when he turns into hulk he has unearthly strength and cap has amazing the only thing in between that is monstorous

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Uhhh.... where has Cap ever had Amazing/50 Strength?



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I think he's talking about Ultimates rather than MU616. Even so I wouldn't rate caps strength remotely close to Hulks.



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Maybe he mistook Strength for Fighting because thats the only Amazing [physical stat] that Cap has.



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Even Ultimates Cap'd only rank at Rm/30 Strength, I'd wager. I'm pretty sure he's not Spidey-Strong.



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the difference between amazing strength and unearthly is amazing is only half as strong as unearthly. And that is only if the amazing strength is pushed to its most upper limits in strength feats. I think you should read up on strength levels and hey maybe a comic or two.



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For the greatest part, Cap has managed to press in the range off 650lbs, although in the Ultimates he has gotten into the Remarkable range or there abouts while Hulk averages, AVERAGES mind you, the Unearthly range. He was the example of Unearthly strength originally. Hulk goes WAAAAAAAYYYY up from there in the comics, at the least into the Shift Y range and into the Shift Z range with some of his feats (and with a few badly written ones he's in the Class 5000 to Beyond range... but those are instances of idiots writing him), although they are exceedingly few.

This makes him, on average, about 300 or so times Cap strength on average. The Emerald Goliath is Marvel's benchmark for strength, same as Cap is for human physical maximums.


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I remember in Ultimates, when Captain America briefly had to hold Spider-Man back (which was reluctantly aiding the Sinister 6) in a 'pushing match', you could clearly see the groves on the ground under Captain America's feet, indicating Spider-Man was clearly winning (even though they're not fighting)...

That's what I like about characters such as Cap and Bats. They will stand toe to toe even with being who could squash them like flies.
Of course, when confronting other heroes, they rely upon either the stupidity (Hulk) or sense of responsibility (Spidey, Superman) that their opponents posess.

this does'nt make sense!!!!someone posted that spiderman has more strength than cap when spiderman has only the strength of a spider and cap is suppose to be the PERFECT man

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The proportional strength of a spider. Take a spider, make it the size of Peter Parker (say about 150lbs) and you've got a bug that can throw a motorcycle over a roof top or press the front end of abus, in short, a spider that can lift 10 tons (20,000 lbs). At least so says comic bookdom. The actual phsycis of the thing would make it impossible to do of course even if the physical strength existed.

Gerrod



If electricity comes from electrons; does that mean that morality comes from morons? G. Carlin

Hammer, look at the stats in any MSH gamebook. Spidey is most always listed as having Incredible/40 Strength, and can press about 10 tons. Heck, look at any of the Spider-Man cartoons or either of the recent movies, you'll see he's got superhuman strength (not so much seen in the first flick, but definitely seen in the second, when he's stopping the runaway trains & holding up the collapsing building near the end so it doesn't crush Mary Jane).

Captain America, on the other hand, possesses the peak/maximum physical abilities that a normal (non-Mutant) human could have. He's as strong as a human could ever be (like, say, Arnold Schwarzenegger, back when he was at the top of his Mr. Universe days), as agile as a human could ever be, etc.. There are lots of folks faster/stronger/etc. than him, though, but that's b/c they have various mutations.



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Yeah... Spider-man with his Incredible strength rank can perform Amazing feats of Strength on Red Feats.
An Amazing strength feat supporting the Monstrous matrial strength rank of the Webbing... thus allowing the lattice of webbing (having the higher rank) to perform an action with Unearthly strength (Shift-X on a Red Feat for it).

Obviously he's gotta be using karma... so those Red feats are probably being made... Shift-X... in comic book terms at least would seem appropriate for slowly bring a runaway train to a grinding stop.