Animal stats/Judge's Book

Is there any updated info on animal stats? Some of the ones I see in the Judge's Book seem wrong. I'm no animal expert, but I think that apes deserve higher agility than Gd, and the birds' agility should be higher than they are. I kind of question whether or not gorillas should have more than Ex strength, and even they should have a higher agility rank.
Gators and crocs maybe should have some body armor due to their thick hides.
I think that cats are listed as having Gd agility, they should obviously have a higher rank.
Some of the animals have the capability to inflict damage by biting or clawing, but their fangs' and claws' material strengths aren't listed. I guess that maybe they do strength rank in damage, or you can just give them a material strength rank of Gd or Ex.
There are other things about the animal listings that don't make sense, but I don't remember which ones they are.



"It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again."

I've always given Gorilla's Rm/30 Strength.



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I have as well Good Doctor. I also give it to Oorangs as they are actually stronger than the average Gorilla. Even though they look like a fat guy in a rug.

Killer B,
Why dont you post what you think the stats should be? I dont think we have ever done a zoological post. Though I could be wrong.

Okay, I'll do a little work on them. I don't have my books with me right now, but I'l look through the animals section again when I get home and post it when I think it looks good enough. I might even do a little work on the supporting cast of humans, too, since some of it doesn't seem right.
I've been a little busy lately, putting my own powers book together.
Also, I've recently been learning to do DCH to MSH conversions, and doing so using different sytsems. I've also made my own by taking what works for me and combining it into one system. I find that the results are almost identical to results made from other systems. This has been taking up alot of my spare time, but I enjoy doing it. Actually I've been spending more time doing conversions than I have playing the game.



"It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again."

Don't tease that monkey!
It'll tear ya head off!:)



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I believe that giving low agility to small animals like birds is necessary so that their overall health score stays low. Also I don't think Crocs (or any animal) deserve body armor because in the classic Marvel RPG, guns do very little damage. No animal can resist a gunshot. However, I do agree about Gorillas having REM strength.



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Thats the day aliens will attack.
Then we will all hate green people.

Okay, after looking through the Supporting Cast section of the Judges Book I did my version of it. It might seem to be the same as in the book, but if you compare you'll see some differences. I stuck with real, modern-day animals and didn't bother with dinosaurs or behemoths.

Alligators and Crocodiles
F - Pr / A - Gd / S - Rm / E - Ex / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 64
* Bite - Rm dam. * Thick hide - Ty armor vs. blunt dam.
* Travel 1 a.p.r. on land / 2 a.p.r. in water.
* When they have a victim grappled in their jaws, they may take it bneath the water to perform the 'Deathroll', which brings the rules of drowning into play.

Armadillos
F - Fe / A - Fe / S - Fe / E- Fe / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 8
* Protective shell - Fe armor. * Move at 1 area every three rounds.
* Cannot score stun or slam results against human-sized targets.

Bats
(individual) F - Fe / A - Pr / S - Fe / E - Fe / R - Fe / I - Pr / P - Fe H - 10
(flock of ten) F - Gd / A - Pr / S - Fe / E - Gd / R - Fe / I - Pr / P - Fe H - 26
* Radarsense - Rm * Bite - Fe dam. * Flight - 3 a.p.r.(Rm agility in flight)

Bears
F - Gd / A- Ty / S - Rm / E - Rm / R - Fe / I- Pr / P - Fe H - 76
* Bite or Claws - Rm dam. * 'Swat' or 'Hug' for Rm dam.
* Move at 2 a.p.r. * Enhanced Smell - Ex tracking.

Birds
(individual) F - Fe / A - Gd / S - Fe / E - Fe / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 16
(flock of ten) F -Gds / A - Gd / S -Fe / E -Ty / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 28
*Winged flight - 4 a.p.r.(Rm agility in flight) * Beaks - Peck for Fe dam.

Birds of Prey (eagles, hawks, falcons, etc.)
F - Gd / A - Gd / S - Pr / E - Ex / R - Fe / I - Pr / P -Fe H - 44
* Winged flight - 4 a.p.r.(Rm agility in flight) * Talons - Ty dam. * Beaks - Pr dam.

Bulls
F - Ty / A - Ty / S - Rm / E - Rm / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H -72
* Horns - Rm dam. * May charge or trample for Rm dam. * Move at 2 a.p.r.

Cats (housecats)
F - Pr / A - Rm / A - Fe / E -Ty / R - Fe / I - Ty / P - Fe H - 42
* Claws - Pr dam. *Bite - Fe dam. * Nightvision - Rm * Move at 2 a.p.r.
Lions, tigers, jaguars, pumas, leopards, panthers, etc.
F - Ex / A - Ex / S - Ex / E - Ex / R - Fe / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 80
* Fangs and Claws - Rm dam. * Move at 3 a.p.r. * Nightvision - Rm
Cheetahs --- Same as above, but with Rm agility and Gd strength. Also, they can run at 5 a.p.r.

Cows
F - Fe / A - Pr / S - Ex / E - Gd / R - Fe / I - Pr / P - Fe H - 36
Herds - +1CS Str. and End. * May charge or trample. * Move at 1 a.p.r.

Dogs(large)
F - Gd / A - Ty / S - T y / E - Gd / R - Pr / I - Gd / P - Fe H - 32
* Bite - Gd dam. * Enhanced hearing and smell - Rm (tracking bonus) * Move at 3 a.p.r.
*** Rottweilers, Mastiffs, etc., have Gd strength and Ex endurance.
(small dogs) F - Pr / A - Ty / S -Fe / E -Ty H - 18

Dolphins
F - Gd / A - Ex / S - Gd / E - Gd / R -Ty / I - Gd / P - Pr H - 50
* Sonar - Rm * Swimming - 3 a.p.r. * May be used as transports.
* Dolphins are the natural enemies of sharks. They commonly target a shark's gills with a ramming attack to damage the shark's 'breathing' to effectively 'drown' it.

Elephants
F - Gd / A - Ty / S - In / E - Am / R - Pr / I - Pr / P - Fe H - 106
* May charge or trample. * Tusks - Rm dam. * Move at 1 a.p.r.

Fish
All stats - Fe H- 8 * Swim at 1 a.p.r.

Horses
F - Ty / A - Gd / S - Rm / E - Rm / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 76
* Kick or trample for Rm dam. * Move at 3 a.p.r. * May be used as transports.

Insects (swarm of 100)
F - Ex / A - Pr / S - Fe / E - Ex / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 46
* Flight(some, not all) - 1 a.p.r.(Rm agility in flight) * Attacks vs. unprotected flesh forces the target to make an Endurance FEAT(during the pre-action phase of the turn) or be unable to make any actions or concentrate. The intensity of this attack is Ty for most insects, but for the likes of mosquitos , red ants, and bees, it can be Gd or Ex.(More serious effects for those who are allergic to insect bites)

Killer Whale
F - Ex / A - Ty / S - In / E - Am / R - Pr / I - Gd / P - Fe H - 116
* Bite - In dam. * Swimming - 3 a.p.r.

Octopi and squid (giant)
F - Ex / A - Rm / S - Gd / E - Rm / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 90
* Multiple arms. * Ink clouds - Ex intensity.

Primates
(chimpanzees) F -Ty / A - Rm / S - Gd / E - Ex / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 66
(orangutans) F - Ty / A - Rm / S - Ex / E - Ex / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 76
(gorillas) F - Gd / A - Ex / S - Rm / E - Rm / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 90
* Alpha-males have Ex fighting.
(monkeys--- like spider-monkeys) F - Ty / A - Rm / S - Pr / E - Gd / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 50
(baboons) F- Ty / A - Rm / S - Gd / E - Ex / R - Pr / I - Ty / P - Pr H - 66
* Primates can manipulate objects. * They may also bite if they get angry.

Rats
All stats are Fe. H - 8 (packs of ten) Ty F, A, and E. * May bite.

Sharks
F - Gd / A - Ex / S - Rm / E - In / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 100
* Bite - Rm dam.
(Great whites) F - Ex / A - Gd / S - In / E -Am H - 120
* Bite - In dam. * Sharks swim at 3 a.p.r.
* Sharks smell blood from great distances and will come to inspect the area in search of food.
* Sharks can sense the lines of electro-magnetic energy, and may be found swimming along them.

Snakes (constrictors)
F - Ty / A - Gd / S - Ex / E - Ex / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 56 *May bite- Gd
(poisonous) F - Gd / A - Ex / S - Fe / E - Pr / R - Fe / I - Fe / P - Fe H - 36
* Bite - Pr dam. * Poison - Ex -Rm intensities.
* Anacondas have Rm strength.

Wolves
F - Ex / A - Ex / S - Gd / E - Ex / R - Pr / I - Gd / P - Pr H - 70
* Bite - Ex dam. * Enhanced hearing and smell - Rm (tracking bonus)
* Move at 3 a.p.r.



Post Edited (01-07-05 13:01)

"It rubs the lotion on it's skin or else it gets the hose again."

Wow, awesome. :-o

Cheetahs run at 60 MPH, but only for a very short time. Can we quantify that?
The running game mechanic allows someone to get 1 extra area/round if they make a strength FEAT. Could that work?



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sounds profound.)

The ones that you create in your laboratory, you alien psychotic!

Eh?



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Puh-leeze!! Too late to portray the innocent , now Dr. Archeville. . .or should I call you by your real name . . .Dr. Ellivehcra!
(That is you, right?)

No, not really. Especially since I hate lycra.



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Sorry. I must have mistaken you for that fiend. What a cruel twist of fate that Ellivehcra spelled backwards becomes "Archeville".
Now I know how the FBI felt when they wrongly accused Richard Jewel of planting the bomb during the '96 Olympics.

Mea Culpa, herr Doctor. Mea Culpa.

My search continues. It is only a matter of time before I catch that dastardly, gorilla-altering, villian.

This might just be me, but I think that a randomn animal would have a higher Intuition score than a randomn human. Almost every animal here has Feeble. I know the Judge's Book gives the average animal a below than average human Intuition score but, well, I think the official rules are wrong too. At the very least you would have to give most animals Enhanced Senses of some sort. That would allow them to substitute their Power Rank in Senses for their Intuition score (page 71 Player's Handbook).



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Yes, and I'm sure you'll get him, FOOM, whereever he is....

*hides his Monkey Mutator Ray*

true_dweomer -- not all animals possess senses better than human's. Most primates senses aren't that different from humans, for example, or at least not enough to warrant any real increase. Cats and dogs, though, sure.



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Most animals have at least one sense better than humans, yes, but most animals also have at least one sense worse than humans. For example, our eyesight is much better than that of a dog. They have better hearing and smell, but they're much less observant. Eagles have fantastic eyes, and everything else unexceptional. Stuff like that.

-Wal



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