Just for fun... (TV) Justice League stats!

Justice League

Aquaman

Arthur, King of Atlantis

F-In
A-In
S-In
E-Am
R-Ex
I-Rm
P-Am

Health-170
Karma-100
Resources-Unearthly
Popularity- -15/100 in Atlantis

Powers
Communicate w/ Underwater creatures-Unearthly
Enviormental Awarness-Underwater-Monstrous (Aquaman gains Monstrous intuition underwater)

Atlantean Physiology
Arthur gains +1cs to FASE underwater
Dense Flesh-Excellent protection vs Physical attacks
Resist cold-Incredible protection vs Cold
Water Breathing
Water Freedom
Hyper Swimming-Incredible

Weapons
Harpoon-Aquaman's left arm has been replaced by a Harpoon like weapon.
Amazing material, Excellent damage when slashing, Remarkable when piercing.
-The harpoon is connected by thick cable Incredible material that extends up to 2 areas
-The harpoon can be fired at high velocity causing Incredible edged damage range 2 areas

Trident of Posiden-Class 1000 material, Remarkable edged
The Trident of Posiden is a powerful item that is the collective of the Atlantean mystical powers, it has the following know powers
-Energy Generation-Unearthy
-Eldritch Bolts-Monstrous
The Trident can also cast any Personnal spells at Amazing rank.
Universal at Monstrous and Dimensional at Unearthly.

Talents
Leadership, Military, Underwater Combat, Occult Lore, Politics, Martial Arts A & C, Weapon Specialist (Trident) Edged Weapons, Pilot (Atlantean vehicles)



"To win without risk is to triumph without glory"

Did you miss the smiley face or something? :bounce:

I never claimed to be an expert. What I said was, if y'all cite evidence, I'd update my 1st stabs at the characters accordingly. You didn't cite any evidence earlier, you just said "make her stronger!"

And thanks for hijacking my topic. :)



Post Edited (02-05-04 07:18)

Sorry, I don't always pick up on the inflections & sarcasm.


didn't mean to hijack the topic, I was Inspired.

I did the stats for the Justice Guild on this site, from the episode "Legends" never thought to write up Justice League TV stats.



Post Edited (02-05-04 07:30)

"To win without risk is to triumph without glory"

*blink blink*

Why does Flash have Monstrous/75 Endurance???



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Maybe for Flash, you could have his Endurance at either Excellent or Remarkable, and when he uses his running power, his Endurance pops up to Monstrous for the purpose of stamina/charging/etc during running, with no Health boost?

And yeah, Hawkgirl needs more strength and some form of body resistance...

Apparently, Flash must consume a lot of burgers due to his high metabolism... :)

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Why does Flash have Monstrous/75 Endurance???

The guy has run vast distances at supersonic speed without getting tired. Why NOT Monstrous endurance? Heck, with GL's help he ran to the SUN, getting up to nearly light speed in the process. I actually reduced his endurance vs. the mainstream Flash's writeup, by the way.

If you read almost ANY super-speeder writeup, they have very high
endurance scores. Flash had Un (100) and Jesse Quick had Am (50). If the guy has to run to the sun to get tired, I think Mn (75) is OK. His fighting and strength scores are low enough that his health isn't outrageous, and remember that he has NO body resistance in this writeup, either. Keep in mind, too, that because he's relatively dumb he still gets hit ALOT.

I already increased Hawkgirl's fighting to In (40), her strength to Ex (20), and gave her Ex (20) body armor.



Post Edited (02-05-04 10:58)

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The guy has run vast distances at supersonic speed without getting tired. Why NOT Monstrous endurance? Heck, with GL's help he ran to the SUN, getting up to nearly light speed in the process. I actually reduced his endurance vs. the mainstream Flash's writeup, by the way.

No, you vastly increased it -- nowhere in any of the various DC RPG write-up is Flash listed as having anything above human levels of Endurance. Same goes for all the other Speedsters (I know the conversion of him listed on this site has Flash with Un/100 Endurace; that is IMHO blatantly wrong). They can run vast distances at superhuman speeds b/c (A) doing so for them is no more tiring than you or I walking across a room, and (B) they're not drawing the enrgy to do these feats of inhuman speed from themselves, they're drawing it from the Speed Force itself.



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Let's see:

Writeup says Un (100)
Mine says Mn (75)

75<100.

Therefore, I reduced it. ;-)

But whatever. With all the kvetching I'll just reduce it to Rm(30) and give him Hyper-Endurance or something. :)



Post Edited (02-05-04 12:37)

Flash updated to lower endurance, gave him a limited form of Hyper-Endurance to compensate.

Proposed update to Martian Manhunter's powers:

Density Control: Un (100). Has demonstrated the following abilities based on this power:
- Phasing: Un (100) at Shift-0 density.
- Use density as Body Resistance
- Use density above Am (50) for Strength
- Limitation: -1CS to Fighting and Agility for each +1CS to density above In (40). Density changes also do not change his health.

This is similar to how The Vision's powers are described, except that I don't use his Density Control power for his flight (since he seems to fly too fast for that).



Post Edited (02-05-04 12:59)

Not bad...Castle.

Only a few changes I would make with the intial 6 based on what I have seen in the cartoon:

Wonder Woman: Strength to Un (100). She has stood toe to toe to Supes in the series and won. They fought twice:First time she won and the last time Supes stop fighting after he realize that he was fighting her.

Hawkwoman: Endurance to Am(50) plus add Iron Will to powers. There were numerous of episodes where she was the last one standing after major fight due to Iron Will and Endurance.

Martian Manhunter: Endurance to In(40) due to the fact that he has not shown endurance capable handle some forms of electricity, cold, etc. In(40) is generous compared to the Ex(20) that I would have gave him.

Other than that, everything is fine.



&quot;It doesn't matter if I win or lose. Just as long as I pissed you off&quot; --- Morrigian, Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo

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Wonder Woman: Strength to Un (100). She has stood toe to toe to Supes in the series and won.

She can still do that with my writeup... she's got WAY higher fighting ability and every fighting talent in the book. Ex (20) fighting and Martial Arts B vs. Am (50) fighting and ALL Martial Arts talents (+Wrestling) is a big edge for Wonder Woman, even with lower physical stats.

Superman gets +1CS to Fighting with Martial Arts B, for a total of Rm (30) when unarmed.

Wonder Woman gets:

A: Stun/Slam regardless of comparative endurances
B: +1CS to Fighting for Mn (75) when unarmed.
C: +1CS Strength for Grappling (including damage) & Escaping (that's Un (100)), and +1CS Agility for Dodging (that's Mn (75)).
D: Ignore the effects of Body Armor for determining Stun and Slam results. Does not have to inflict damage to force a check for possible Stun and Slam.
E: +1CS to initiative in unarmed combat.
F: +1CS to Blocking, and checks vs. Slams and Stuns.
G: Wait until all actions have been declared before she must declare an action.
H: +1 attack per round, after 1 round has passed.
I: +1CS to Endurance when recovering Health (need not rest) (for Un (100) Endurance for recovering health), +1CS vs Stun/Slam.
Wrestling: +3CS to hit in a Grappling attack, and a + 1CS for damage (w/Martial Arts B)

I don't think she needs a stat boost. I think Superman was lucky to last as long as he did. :hot:

No, Castle, you did increase it, since Flash should have Gd/10 Endurance, Ex/20 at best. As I said, this site's write-up of Flash with Un/100 Endurance is wrong.



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No, Castle, you did increase it.

Whatever. :beer:



Post Edited (02-05-04 15:17)

Doc?

Where is there a writeup of Flash that you would consider right? Because what most of us, not regularly reading Flash comics, have to go on is what's on this site. Which gives him Unearthly Endurance.

Personally, I go by the UPB, which I think states that Hyper-Running includes power rank Hyper-Endurance as a bonus power. Which I take as meaning that someone with Remarkable Hyper-Running and Excellent Endurance counts as having Amazing Endurance while running. So Quicksilver has Remarkable Endurance, but can run for at least ten minutes without slowing down.

However, I'm hyper-logical and an adapting Rules Lawyer. Most people aren't.

-Wal



Surrender? What? You think this letter on my head stands for FRANCE?

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Where is there a writeup of Flash that you would consider right?

WEG's DC Universe RPG (for Wally West), the JLA Sourcebook (for Barry Allen & Wally West), and the JSA Sourcebook (for Jay Garrick). All 3 are listed with what would be well-in-human range of Endurance -- as I said, they don't need superhuman Endurance, b/c (A) running marathons at supersonic speed is no more tiring for them than one of us walking across a room, because (B) when moving at Hyper-Speed, they're drawing the enrgy not form thier own bodies (like we do when we move), but directly from the Speed Force Dimension.



Post Edited (02-05-04 20:01)

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......Speed Force Dimension.

Your not really going to site that garbage are you?

The speed force is one of the silliest/stupidest things in comic history IMO.

But I guess if your talking about the world of Dubious Content you gotta mention it when talking speedsters.



DG X(

Marvel > DC

I guess in the cartoon version, Flash does actually use his own body energy, since of his super high metabolism (see that Gorilla Grodd episode!)...

There has been one isolated incident of Flash tapping into speed beyond his control, when he accidently created that warp through time. Perhaps that could be a indication of the Speed Force? Who knows, I haven't heard it mentioned yet in the cartoon. :)

Yes, Warlcok, I am using the Speed Force Dimension, since it's almost as much a part of DC as the Negative Zone is a part of Marvel. It's not been around nearly as long, true, but both are well-established in thier respective continuities.

And how can you say it's sillier than, say, Captain Universe? Why is a Speedester gaining his speed from extradimensional energy any stupider than a Marvel sorcerer calling on Watoomb for Lighting Speed?



Post Edited (02-06-04 04:39)

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Flash should probably have

F-Ex
A-UN
S-Gd
E-Ex

Health-150

*Flash's endurance should be considered Monstrous for any feat required for Running.



&quot;To win without risk is to triumph without glory&quot;

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I guess in the cartoon version, Flash does actually use his own body energy, since of his super high metabolism (see that Gorilla Grodd episode!)...

They do point that out more than once that he has to eat alot to keep going. So now I'm just more confused. :cry:

Thus my writeup stays the same. :)

Wierd thing is, I expected more controversy about my Lex Luthor stats, since even after seeing the episodes he was in I'm basically guessing alot. Then again, the armor isn't in action alot (Kryptonite-zap Superman, then get whacked, go to jail, listen to Ultra-Humanite watching Opera on PBS... :hot: )