Spidey and the United Nations

sounds nice and wholesome but I'm not a fan of Marvel using Spiderman to shill for the United Nations and there agenda with the chance of child indoctrination. and yet maybe it will be a good thing.

Hard to trust an organazation who has caused more trouble after it's inception then helped ( but it has done some good too! )
ever since the U.N. Oil for food scandel worth billions and the rape of women in Africa scandel not a fan!

WHAT IS MARVEL DOING???

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Yeah, they aren't going to like my version of the U.N. when I get my long over due comic book out.



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Wow. Jingoist propaganda, anyone?

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Marvel is going after money and not really caring how false or misleading the image they send is. Given the awful treatment of Spider-man of late, especially One More Day, it's not surprising that they'd tack yet another low point onto his character's career.

The UN for example does little if anything to combat things like poverty and disease, and nothing to combat conflict. It has no power to do anything and the only real muscle it has comes from the US. While the concept of the UN is laudible, creating a governing body that would rule over the various nations like the Federal government does over the states, in application it's just a place where everyone gets together to argue or threaten one another and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone didn't protest them at some point, must be someone out there who'd jump onto a school for distributing such misleading propaganda.

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If *some* nations which directly benefit from exploiting poorer nations' resources weren't constantly hamstringing the UN, they might have a better impact in making the world a better, safer, more peaceable place for ALL people.

No names though. None needed, eh?

Ya mean like France, Russia and the UK exploiting the oil for food program to make Billions on others suffering then I agree with you. ( i'm sure the U.S. is still the great satan in many peoples eyes. yawn. )

Personally the U.N. has over the years besmirched the U.S even though we house and fund them ecomically more than any other country. I think it's time for some other country to take over and House the UN ( maybe Switzerland ) from now on. get it out of New York City.- Did ya know they won't even let the Boy Scouts to hold functions on the Different UN properties -not only in NY but else where in the U.S.- weird huh?

What Nightmask said was dead on about the UN and Marvel and spidey. It just disappoints me even though I know why it happens.

The US hasn't paid dues to the United Nations is *years*. Certainly not since the Bush administration, who let a man serve as ambassador who *didn't think his own job was relevant*.

No nation is "evil". Let me repeat that: *NO NATION IS EVIL*. A government can be corrupt and self-serving, but to call the entire citizenry of a country "evil" is a bit simplistic.

I think this conversation is quickly devolve into some right vs. left thing, and I'm already uninterested. I'm just not willing to engage this argument considering I'm the very liberal minority.

Instead, let's shift focus to the actual topic of this post. The UN is sending these Spidey comics to kids in lesser developed nations.

If a kid in Swaziland picks up the comic book and likes the art, maybe he'll pick up a paintbrush instead of an assault rifle.

If a kid in Cambodia reads the comic and decides that instead of joining a local militia, he sees a less violent way of resolving issues, then I'm all for it.

I hope that everyone can agree that kids enjoying comics is a good thing. Likewise, I hope we all can agree that *decreasing* violence in the world is a good goal.

My guess--and admittedly, neither the "news" article originally cited or the UN website have made it clear--is that Marvel has donated these comic books, or at the very least, the licensing and image of Spider-Man. I can't imagine them making money off of this.

Also, giving a kid a comic book, especially in the nations where these are likely to be distributed, will likely be what Christmas feels like in the US. I know it's hard for most of us to wrap our brains around it, but the money spent solely to print and send the comic often rivals many people's *income* for several weeks.

I just can't see anything so bad about a small something that brings joy to what-ought-to-be-criminally poor children.

Well said, Bobby Zero, well said.



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Decreasing violence and the United Nations is a oxymoron. PLEASE CHECK.

And my point is I find the Marvel company involving themselves with U.N. an organazation which I find mostly ( historically ) a FAILURE the main disappointment.

If you wish me to make a list of failures of the U.N. let me know.

As far as a right vs. left thing I don't know what you mean. One can be a Democrate or Rebublican or even like myself Independent and think of the U.N. as a powerless peace-keeping scanel-ridden, rape fest mess.

I agree that if someone finds joy in comics thru this thing THAT'S FINE. maybe Marvel should give spidey-comics to the rape victims or even the boy-scouts.

Probably a good idea to not debate the merits of the UN on here from the looks of things, already had things get way too hot and left a lot of people on edge and more sensitive than usual. Like any large body it has a lot of problems to go along with the things it does get right, just like Congress. I think if the UN wasn't using Spider-man or the FF to try and fix their image problems with propaganda and instead were doing actual work to fix the actual problems causing that bad image it'd be a far better thing. As far as Marvel not making money off of it of course they will, if only due to the advertising helping encourage comic sales and let them use their philanthropic efforts with the comics to improve their own image which has suffered due to various events that'd also generate a lot of heat on here and have already done so, although with more control and stopping shy of an actual flame war.

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I'm done participating in this particular conversation, I think. I see it for the doomed ship that it is, and can't see anything positive coming from it.

That, and I'm unwilling to have such a debate with someone who uses "shouting" as a means to prove a point, nor do I find the condescending, jingoistic tone to my liking.

So, that's that. Best of luck.

Come on, people... this forum was never supposed to be about politics, at least not heavy into real world politics. Yikes.

I agree. not about politics. I let my disgust of the U.N.and Marvel's decision to get involved with them influence my post with others that are apologists for it.

don't know about shouting though. highlighting a phrase is not the same thing.

NOTE:------I also became unfairly paranoid pregognitive with me assuming Marvel would produce new comics that would use spiderman to push the U.N. body. instead of just innocently passing out free comics. my bad.
But if I find out this happens you will be seeing this thread again and my disapointment.

Forgive me I'm an anti-globalist and do not trust the U.N. and many other organazations.

as for Bobby Zero - your right, there was no point in expressing my biased POV on this. I regret even posting this topic.

Well, my politics tend to fall on the libertarian-right side of the spectrum, so I'm somewhat all for getting the "United Nations" off American soil with a wrecking ball, and rather ambiguous about letting the people in the buildings get out the way first.

I'm disappointed that Marvel is doing this.

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