capocastillo Wrote:
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> Well since I've empowered Nightmask and Others by
> directing them to a location where they can make
> their discontent heard, how exactly am I building
> 'Straw Men' to make my point.
>
> A starw Man argument in debate is an argument
> designed to distract someone away from the
> original point, so they can destroy it and not
> refute a stronger argument i can pull thgrough
> later to win because the refutation against it is
> weak; everything was wasted on the 'Straw Man'.
>
> But here's my point.
>
> I truly believe Nightmask is being honest about
> his feelings towards comics. I don't agree at
> all, but even if I can't relate to Nightmask's
> opinions I wanted to simply ask him, why? If he
> doesn't like the product, why pay for it. I as a
> person don't understand paying for something that
> doesn't give joy when it's a hobby.
>
> I admit that the language i use is exagerative and
> I use it to underscore a point. But I see people
> like Nightmask every week. i go to my local comic
> shop to get my books for the week and i see guys
> standing there and they flip through books and
> what happens pisses them off, but then they buy
> the book. Why? I really don't get supporting
> something that makes me irritated. That's why WWE
> hasn't gotten any of my pay per view dollars in
> like 2 and a half years. Until they start pushing
> events i want to see, they can go @#$%&
> themselves.
>
> But what you call a straw man argument, really, is
> me trying to understand where someone is coming
> from, even if i don't happen to agree with them.
As far as I am concerned, this issue is finished with me. But I feel the need to address something important! Capo, as you can see.....I haven't agreed with a lot of what you said, but I have given you credit when I felt you made good points. I also noted that you place your words and arguments well. But at times you misrepresent or under-emphasize certain points that you don't agree with. At times it may appear that there is a bandwagon mentality at work where people are ganging up on you. Instead, I truly hope to open your eyes to a negative pattern in your style of argumentation. It matters cause it may very well be unintended, but it comes across as disrespectful or insulting. I won't assume you mean to be, so I'd rather point out what I see as a mistake.
To add a little more; a straw man is actually an argument the speaker uses to make his case look stronger by making his opponents appear weaker and it's not so much to draw attention away or distract, as that is a "Red Herring." I prefer that you just present your case as best as possible while doing the same when presenting other's. And may the best case win! I do not intend to have it be a bash session on you or your ideas. I felt the need to say this cause I don't want to diminish your attempts to be honest and fair! This, I believe anyone deserves until they prove otherwise!