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Marvel's Illuminati
Posted by Dr Archeville
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Anyone else think this group smacks a bit of the Authority?
Only in the very vague conceptual stage. The Authority were all about the widescreen action and big fight scenes. The Illuminati are a subtle influence. They don't get together and beat up bad guys, they get together and talk. And then they go away and beat up bad guys separately, often with their own teams.
-Wal Surrender? What? You think this letter on my head stands for FRANCE?
Dr Archeville Wrote:
------------------------------------------------------- > Tony Stark represents a certain > type of hero - the Avenger type of hero, one who > understands and appreciates that heroes can work > with the government, rather than outside of it; Really?! Is this a relatviely recent developement, because the last time I checked Iron Man (which admittedly was a very long time ago) he was going after all kinds of different armoured heroes and villians, in the service of his own ends and to hell with the government. Or is it as Tony Stark, genius weapons contractor, that he works within the government? Or as Iron Man, but in contrast to Prof.X or Dr.Strange who either often oppose or have nothing at all to do with the government? I always saw Cap as the Avenger-type most willing to work with the government, the chosen system and representation of a free and democractic people ... knowing at the same time that Cap has had his own conscientious objections about his own goverement in the past. Anyway ...
When he discovered that the United States military was still using his technology, rather than confront them as he did before, he accepted a Presidential appointment to act as Secretary of Defense (his predecessor, Dell Rusk, had actually been the Red Skull in disguise). In this way, he hoped to be able to monitor and direct how his designs were being used. Stark continued to act as Iron Man while carrying out his government duties, until being forced to resign after a seemingly drunken tirade against the Latverian Ambassador at the United Nations. The tirade had actually been induced by the Scarlet Witch, who had gone insane (as seen in Avengers: Disassembled).
Oh, I'm not saying they are like the Authority, or even that they automatically will become so... but I can easily see 'em becoming as such. Yes, the Authority were about big widescren battles, but they were also about "do what we say b/c we're right, and we're right b/c we're powerful, and might makes right."
Iron Man and Mister Fantastic are all for the Superhuman Reguistration Act (see: Civil War).
Black Bolt, Dr. Strange, and Namor are all against it. No word on Xavier's stance, since he's been MiA since House of M started. Thus, Marvel's retconned something into existence so they can take it apart, and then expect us to care about it as though it had been something we'd known about all along....
I know the writers wanted Cap and Iron Man to be on opposite sides of this war, but to me it doesn't make sense that Iron Man would side with the government. His dalliance with the federal government aside, IM has always been the one to go on his own, laws and regulations be @#$%ed. He broke a litany of federal and international laws in the "Armor Wars" to recover his stolen technology. He defied a direct order from a U.S. Senator to stop a madman who had gotten ahold of some nuclear missiles, etc. His willingness to work as the Secretary of Defense was not predicated on a willingness to work with the government, but his desire to monitor the U.S.' use of his Iron Man armor technology.
I just don't think it's consistent for this character to be siding against Cap on this one. A more likely mainstream Marvel character to have gone along with the registration act? Thor.
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