Monster Marvel Stats?

I know a couple of years ago ( i think ) there was on this site a Conversion chart or article to be able to put AD&D monster ( 1st or 2nd ED. ) ( or character class ) stats into the Marvel RPG.

Does anyone know where i could find a decent conversion table?

I want to have as villains with there sometimes excellent TSR art D&D monsters. the visuals that go along would be a nice touch to show the players.

i got this 1 compiled from many different sites that probably no longer exist, hope it helps u out

DC SAGA MSHAG D20
DEX AGILITY AGILITY DEX
1 FB 1 FB 3-5
2 PR 2 FB 6-9
3 TY 3 PR 10-11
4 GD 4 PR 12-13
5-6 EX 6 TY 14-15
7-8 RM 8 GD 16-17
9-10 IN 10 EX 18-19
11-12 AM 12 RM 20-29
13-15 MN 15 IN-AM 30-39
16-18 UN 18 MN 40+
19-21 SH-X 22 UN-SX
22-24 SH-Y 24 SY
25-27 SH-Z 28 SZ
28-30 CL. 1000 30 C1000+

DC SAGA MSHAG D20
BODY END DEF CON
1 FB 2 3-6
2 PR 4 10-11
3 TY 7 12-13
4 GD 8 14-15
5 EX 9 16-17
6 RM 10 18-19
7-8 IN 12 20-29
9-10 AM 14 30-39
11-12 ----- 15 -----
13-15 MN 18 40-49
16-18 UN 20 50-59
19-21 SH-X 22
22-24 SH-Y 24
25-27 SH-Z 28
28-30 CL. 1000 30

DC SAGA MSHAG D20
INT REASON INT INT
1 FB 1 FB 3-5
2 PR 2 FB 6-9
3 TY 3 PR 10-11
4 GD 4 PR 12-13
5-7 EX 6 TY 14-15
8-9 RM 8 GD 16-17
10-12 IN 10 EX 18-19
13-15 AM 12 RM 20-29
16-18 MN 15 IN-AM 30-39
19-21 UN 18 MN 40+
22-24 SH-X 22 UN-SX
25-27 SH-Y 24 SY
28-30 SH-Z 28 SZ

WILL/MIND/
AURA/SPIRIT MSHAG D20
PSYCHE WILL Wisdom/ Will
1 FB 1 3 -4
2 PR 2 7 -2
3 TY 3 11-10 +0
4 GD 4 13-12 +1
5-6 EX 6 15-14 +2
7-8 RM 8 17-16 +3
9-10 IN 9 18 +4
11-12 AM 10 19 +4
13-15 MN 12 22-20 +5
16-18 UN 15
19-21 SH-X 18
22-24 SH-Y 20
25-27 SH-Z 22
28-30 CL. 1000 24-30

WEALTH RESOURCES
1 FB
2 PR
3 TY
4-5 GD
6-9 EX
10-12 RM
13-15 IN
16-18 AM
19-21 MN
22-24 UN
25-26 SH-X

INFLUENCE/
AURA
POPULARITY
1 FB
2 PR
3 TY
4 GD
5-6 EX
7-8 RM
9-10 IN
11-12 AM
13-15 MN
16-18 UN

DC SAGA MSHAG & D20
POWER POWER POWER RANK
1 FB 1
2 PR 2
3 TY 4
4 GD 6
5-6 EX 8
7-8 RM 10
9-10 IN 12
11-12 AM 14
13-15 MN 16
16-18 UN 18
19-21 SH-X 19
22-24 SH-Y 20
25-27 SH-Z 22
28-30 CL. 1000 28

DC SAGA MSHAG D20
STR STR STR STR
1 FB 1-2
2 PR 3-4
3 TY 5-6 6-11
4 GD 7-8 14-15
5-6 EX 9-10 18-20
7-8 RM 11-12 21-26
9-10 IN 13-14 27-43
11-12 AM 15-16 43-54
13-15 MN 17-18
16-18 UN 19-20 61
19-21 SH-X 21-22
22-24 SH-Y 23-24
25-27 SH-Z 25-28
28-30 CL.1000 29-30

*note
sorry that came out really screwed up :P just copy and paste it yur probly gunna have 2 reconfigure it

DC SAGA MSHAG D20

DEX AGILITY AGILITY DEX
1 FB 1 FB 3-5
2 PR 2 FB 6-9
3 TY 3 PR 10-11
4 GD 4 PR 12-13
5-6 EX 6 TY 14-15
7-8 RM 8 GD 16-17
9-10 IN 10 EX 18-19
11-12 AM 12 RM 20-29
13-15 MN 15 IN-AM 30-39
16-18 UN 18 MN 40+
19-21 SH-X 22 UN-SX
22-24 SH-Y 24 SY
25-27 SH-Z 28 SZ
28-30 CL. 1000 30 C1000+

DC SAGA MSHAG D20

BODY END DEF CON
1 FB 2 3-6
2 PR 4 10-11
3 TY 7 12-13
4 GD 8 14-15
5 EX 9 16-17
6 RM 10 18-19
7-8 IN 12 20-29
9-10 AM 14 30-39
11-12 ----- 15 -----
13-15 MN 18 40-49
16-18 UN 20 50-59
19-21 SH-X 22
22-24 SH-Y 24
25-27 SH-Z 28
28-30 CL. 1000 30

DC SAGA MSHAG D20

INT REASON INT INT
1 FB 1 FB 3-5
2 PR 2 FB 6-9
3 TY 3 PR 10-11
4 GD 4 PR 12-13
5-7 EX 6 TY 14-15
8-9 RM 8 GD 16-17
10-12 IN 10 EX 18-19
13-15 AM 12 RM 20-29
16-18 MN 15 IN-AM 30-39
19-21 UN 18 MN 40+
22-24 SH-X 22 UN-SX
25-27 SH-Y 24 SY
28-30 SH-Z 28 SZ

WILL/MIND/
AURA/SPIRIT MSHAG D20

PSYCHE WILL Wisdom/ Will
1 FB 1 3 -4
2 PR 2 7 -2
3 TY 3 11-10 +0
4 GD 4 13-12 +1
5-6 EX 6 15-14 +2
7-8 RM 8 17-16 +3
9-10 IN 9 18 +4
11-12 AM 10 19 +4
13-15 MN 12 22-20 +5
16-18 UN 15
19-21 SH-X 18
22-24 SH-Y 20
25-27 SH-Z 22
28-30 CL. 1000 24-30

WEALTH RESOURCES
1 FB
2 PR
3 TY
4-5 GD
6-9 EX
10-12 RM
13-15 IN
16-18 AM
19-21 MN
22-24 UN
25-26 SH-X

INFLUENCE/
AURA

POPULARITY
1 FB
2 PR
3 TY
4 GD
5-6 EX
7-8 RM
9-10 IN
11-12 AM
13-15 MN
16-18 UN

DC SAGA MSHAG & D20

POWER POWER POWER RANK
1 FB 1
2 PR 2
3 TY 4
4 GD 6
5-6 EX 8
7-8 RM 10
9-10 IN 12
11-12 AM 14
13-15 MN 16
16-18 UN 18
19-21 SH-X 19
22-24 SH-Y 20
25-27 SH-Z 22
28-30 CL. 1000 28

DC SAGA MSHAG D20

STR STR STR STR
1 FB 1-2
2 PR 3-4
3 TY 5-6 6-11
4 GD 7-8 14-15
5-6 EX 9-10 18-20
7-8 RM 11-12 21-26
9-10 IN 13-14 27-43
11-12 AM 15-16 43-54
13-15 MN 17-18
16-18 UN 19-20 61
19-21 SH-X 21-22
22-24 SH-Y 23-24
25-27 SH-Z 25-28
28-30 CL.1000 29-30

I have this one on my site. Don't know how good or bad it is, but check it out.

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I don't fully understand these conversions- I only own 1st and 2nd ED. AD&D. not 3rd or 3.5.

For instance could one of you do the stats for an OGRE from the Monster Manuel.

Or as an interesting Marvel NPC do a Death Knight from MM1 or the old Fiend Folio.

thumping head for rough 2nd Edition AD&D to MSH guidelines I use offhand..

Thac0 to Fighting: Number of points Base Thac0 is below 21, multiplied by 3, gives a Fighting rank Number (usually rounded to MSH standard number for that Rank). For example, a normal person with Thac0 of 20 yields Poor Fighting (21 - 20 = 1; 1 x 3 = 3, which is within Poor rank in MSH)

Number of Hit Dice to Endurance: Creature's number of HD, multiplied by 5, yields Endurance Rank Number (this can require some adjustments or judgment calls)

A quick thought on an AD&D Ogre converted to MSH:

Fighting: Good

Agility: Typical

Strength: Excellent

Endurance: Excellent

Reason: Poor

Intuition: Typical

Psyche: Poor

Health: 56

Karma: 14

IIRC, an Ogre is listed as having a natural AC of 4, so I might give them Good Body Armor for that... (Number of points AC is below 10, multiplied by 2, rounded to standard MSH rank numbers)

just a quick thought..

Quack, damn you...

Excellent Strength seems awfully low for an Ogre.

Well heres what i came up with using the conversion chart that i tried to post

LARGE OGRE

Fighting:Gd

Strength:Rm-a large ogre can lift a maximum of 1840 lbs

Agility:Fb

Endurance:Gd

Reason:Fb

Intuition:Ty

Psyche:Ty

Health:52

Punstarr, I'm working off 2nd Edition AD&D info, where the typical Ogre is described with a Strength and hand to hand damage rating that equates to the maximum human Strength rating (before you get into Giant-class Strengths), thus the Excellent Strength...

Also, given the huge tree limbs they tend to favor as melee weapons, the Ogre would receive a +1cs bonus to damage, enabling them to deliver Remarkable damage in combat, although even 20pts is still enough to critically or fatally injure most everyday people..;)

Quack, damn you...

Ahhhh 2nd ed. Alright then.

It'd have Remarkable Strength at least via 3rd ed.





Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/20/2007 07:47PM by Punstarr.

Agility would be poor-4 and psyche- pr-4 maybe.

I always thought some of the undead would be interesting Marvel NPC's.

Wraith
Spectre
and the LICH.

Yes they are..I tend to convert and cross over monsters often ..From many genrs though I dont have a specific system I primarrily model them off of common sense..And an Ogre as 18/00 is definately Ex str in MHO. Though an exceptional one/PC Grade might have RM str. In # or greater eds they wouldnt suprise me to have In or greater str..I find anything past 2nd ed to be powermongering and roll playing as opposed to role playing. But again, that is just MHO.

I would be interested in Marvel stats for some D&D undead like skeletons, shadows and wraiths!!!

Even a Medusa fron 2nd ED. AD&D!!!